WOF: Congratulations
on having Quaker Summer named Women
of Faith Novel of the Year! What prompted
you to begin writing fiction?
LISA: I was always
a fiction reader. The thought of writing
anything else just wouldn’t have occurred
to me. My major in school was television
production with proficiency in writing for
radio and television (primarily news, advertisements,
and that sort of thing). I did a screenplay
for my senior project, so that was a story. Anything
serious that I had done was in the form of
a story.
WOF: Publisher’s
Weekly called Quaker Summer “a
staggering examination of the Christian conscience” and “an
emotionally and spiritually luminous portrait
of a soul beckoned by God.” That’s
high praise! What is it about Quaker
Summer that resonates with the reader?
LISA: I think what
resonates with the reader the most is that
we are for the most part caught up in “accumulation”.
So we either accumulate stuff or we accumulate
degrees or we accumulate Bible study hours
or food . . . our life is about more, more,
more.
I think if we all just
stood in front of a mirror and took off
any hats and any pretense whatsoever, we’d
have to say, “This
just isn’t doing it for me.” We
tend to realize we have sold our soul for
a mess of pottage, even if it’s a mess
of spiritual pottage. How many Bible studies
can one person do? How many prayer
groups can we go to? How many church
services do we attend before we finally get
to the point that we realize my life
with God isn’t all about me.
I think people are responding
to this voice inside of us that says Jesus
was about healing, He was about being involved
in their lives, and He was about administering
grace to those who didn’t deserve it. Whatever
happened to just following Christ, being
like Christ? I think that’s what
draws people to the story because it’s
saying, “You know, you can do all the
stuff that surrounds the church these days
but until you start imitating Christ it’s
just a substitute.”
Isn’t that the goal of being a Christian? The
goal is to ‘“be holy as I am
holy,” says the Lord.’ How
do we do that? What is holiness? Is
holiness just standing apart from the ways
of the world or is there more to it? Is
there a proactive side to it and if there
is, is it just us doing something to make
ourselves feel closer to God or is it breaking
into our society ― like Christ incarnate
broke into the world ― and making a
difference?
WOF: Heather seems to
have it all – but she keeps adding ‘more’. So
often we think that only those who don’t
know God feel that kind of emptiness, but
Heather does have a relationship with Him. Do
you think a lot of believers experience the
same problem?
LISA: I do. If we’re
honest with ourselves, I think we feel the
emptiness and it reflects itself in our churches. If
we have more programs for this . . . if we
have a better praise team . . . if we buy
more land . . . if we grow and grow . . .
then we’ll be closer to the Lord. Unfortunately,
the church is pretty much cut off at the
knees these days as far as our influence
on society because our behavior doesn’t
reflect any better than the world’s,
according to George Barna’s statistics. We
have the same divorce rate, the same alcoholism
rate. Obviously we must be feeling
empty and distraught because we’re
turning to the same things everybody else
does. I think we tend to pile on things to
keep ourselves from doing serious spiritual
business with God.
WOF: Why
do you think we do that?
LISA: I don’t
know; I think it’s just easier than
to have to recognize that maybe God expects
more out of us than we would like to admit. I
think living the gospel life is very straightforward
and simple but it’s not easy. It’s
so much easier to pile more stuff on than
it is to get real about what it means to
follow Christ. I think we’ve
made it a lot more complicated.
It’s harder when you start to live
a radical Christian life which says, “I’m
going to deny myself; I’m going to
start to live Matthew 25, I’m going
to start to take Micah 6:8 seriously, I’m
going to start to take James 1:27 seriously.” The
problem is, when you start to live that way
you look a little freaky ― and your
biggest critics are going to be your brothers
and sisters in Christ. They don’t
want to be reminded that there is a way of
following Jesus which is going to make waves.
Does Jesus love us all
the time? YES,
He sure does. But He’s calling
us to live a life of faith that’s self-sacrificial
and I think there are rewards for that.
WOF: Anna, Liza, and Sister
J are all such delightful characters and
their effect on Heather’s life is profound. Is/was
there someone like them who influenced your
own life?
LISA: Not really. I
always wanted to have an older woman in my
life that wanted to mentor me and it never
happened. It was something that I prayed
for but God has never blessed me with an
older woman like that. I think those
ladies are who I wish God had sent into my
life, had He had that for me.
WOF: That’s the
joy of fiction, isn’t it? You
can make all these things happen.
LISA: I know! And
then I feel kind of like I was there. I
think it’s so important for younger
women and older women to speak into each
other’s lives like that. My goodness,
I think that’s so scriptural.
WOF: There’s a line
in the book that says “…there
are a million miles between what God should do
and what He does.” It does seem
that way sometimes, doesn’t it? Why
do you think that is?
LISA: I think He
knows the end from the beginning; He knows
what’s really important; He knows what’s
going to last. I think that’s
the biggest thing: God has got a vision
that’s much longer in outlook than
right now or this year or next or even the
next ten years. So God’s thinking
long-term and we’re not prone to think
long-term.
WOF: How do you start
a new novel? Do you start with a character
or a plot or a theme or . . . ?
LISA: Yes! It
depends on the book. It’s happened
in many ways. Songbird, for
instance, was about a character that had
been in another book and I wanted to tell
her story. Quaker Summer was – I
just wanted to talk about consumerism and
being the hands and feet of Jesus and how
the one can keep us from the other. That
was the idea. Then I started to think
about who I wanted Heather to be. If
I could design the perfect life for myself
. . . Heather’s life was totally my
idea of the perfect life. That’s
how this one came out – it started
with an idea.
WOF: Tell us about your
family. Do they ever show up in your
books?
LISA: Sometimes
they do, but just in ghosts of a way ― just
portions of them might show up in a character. I
have three children: My oldest is 17,
her name’s Ty; Jake just turned 13;
Gwynneth is 10. Two years ago we moved
down from suburban Baltimore; we sold our
big house and kind of traded in the suburban
lifestyle. (Although we were not in
Heather’s range, I just want to say
that. She was a step above us.)
We felt God calling us
to a greater involvement in the area of
social justice. So Will went back to school
(he’s getting his Ph.D.
from the University of Kentucky in Sociology)
and we moved to downtown Lexington (Kentucky)
so we could be confronted with these issues
every day. We have a porch where people
will come up and we’ll give them a
meal. We’re here. People
know we’re here. It’s quite simple – just
hang around and be there. We sit out
on our porch a lot.
WOF: Who’s your
all-time favorite author (besides God)? What
are you reading now?
LISA: W. Somerset
Maugham ― I just love him. I
don’t know why, I just do. He
writes a good story and uses words beautifully. He’d
be my favorite. Then F. Scott Fitzgerald
would be next. Contemporarily speaking,
Anne Tyler would be my favorite contemporary
novelist ― and John Irving. Right
now I’m reading Clay’s Quilt by
Silas House, who’s a Kentucky writer – beautiful,
beautiful writer, oh my goodness. And
I’m reading Jesus of Nazareth by
the pope. It’s just brilliant. I
don’t think there are too many evangelicals
who could find fault with what he’s
written there. His portrait of Christ
is just amazing.
WOF: What’s
next for you?
LISA: I’ve
done a series for young adults called Hollywood
Nobody; the
first installment of that comes out the end
of August.
My husband and I wrote
a book together and that’s coming out August 1st. It’s
called Justice in the Burbs: Being the
Hands and Feet of Jesus Wherever You Are. It
helps suburban dwellers figure out what it
means to live a life of justice and compassion
from a suburban context.
In March my novel’s coming out; it’s
called Embrace Me. It’s
a story of seeing with the eyes of Jesus
and learning to love people not for what
they can give us or how much they have to
offer but simply because God loves them and
they’re made in His image.
WOF: Is it different writing
for young adults as opposed to ‘grown-ups’?
LISA: It was different. Writing
about somebody in their forties is very different
from writing someone who’s 15 or 16. I
wanted to give dignity and place to the struggles
of a teenager. They’re HUGE,
don’t you remember? The problems
actually felt bigger than our problems do
now.
WOF: Is
there anything else you want to share with
our readers?
LISA: Just tell
them how thankful I am for them and for the
opportunity to put this book out through
Women of Faith. I hope the Lord will
use it in their lives
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